By Daniel Dessinger
August 25, 2008
Being a big fan of shows like Nancy Grace and Greta Van Susteren, I can’t help but get sucked into the circus that is this tragic case. Wearing my logical hat, I really get sick to my stomach when I think about the whole thing.
These are the facts. Keep in mind, the only thing that Casey Anthony has been charged with is child endangerment and providing police with false information.
Casey Anthony says she dropped off the toddler Caylee 3 with a “fictional baby sitter” “Zeinada” on June 9th. She wasn’t reported missing until July 15th by the grandparents. So investigators are already a month behind on the whereabouts of the little girl. Usually, in missing children cases, hope diminishes after 48 hours. Things got really bizarre after the initial phone calls. Casey Anthony 22 was arrested July 15th.
Casey Anthony’s car was found abandoned in a parking lot (which her mother found and called 911 and said that it smells like a dead body) cadaver dogs were alerted to the smell of decomposition (when investigators were asked if the dogs could make a mistake…they adamantly say no) and then investigators took samples of hair, a stain and dirt this forensic evidence is processing and is pending.
Casey Anthony’s parents insist that the smell was coming from old pizza left in the car that had been sitting for 22 days…and Casey’s family George, Cindy and brother Lee are standing behind her story that the little girl was abducted which at this point seems unlikely and absurd that they would be so naïve and stand behind there daughter/sister who is obviously self absorbed and neurotic when something tragic and terrible happened to an innocent little girl no matter what condition they find her in ( dead or alive).
Cadaver dogs also alerted to 2 spots in the grand parents back yard near Caylees play house. It is also a fact that Casey borrowed a shovel from one of her parent’s neighbor during the distorted time line and her parents also reported gas cans stolen from there shed and I believe that were also later found in Casey’s car. Along with the above evidence which is somewhat circumstantial at this point. They have also tracked the cell phone pings in which puts Casey in some isolated areas but doesn’t really prove any thing and doesn’t seem to help the time line.
What bothers me the most about this whole thing is the 22 year old mother’s persona and attitude. This girl definitely has some screws loose, aside from being caught in multiple, ridiculous lies. There is the pictures that show Casey out partying in night clubs prancing around like a frat girl drinking and dancing all the pictures she has a smile ear to ear…hey I am not against girls having fun but damn you haven’t seen your daughter in weeks …so its time to party??? Then there is when she gets arrested she has her visitations with her family when she doesn’t realize that she is being video taped she is only concerned about her self …its me me me she is cussing at her family and really showing no concern about her daughter and how the case is going.
I am a father (keep in mind I actually considered the kid lo-jack implants for my kids), and let me tell you, no reasonable or normal parent or person is going to act the way Casey acted when there child goes missing. For me personally I would find it hard to crack a smile…much less go out and shake my ass and drink. I would immediately call law enforcement. Take a look at the Elizabeth Smart case and how her parents handled the case with her daughter being kidnapped that was normal it was sincere and you could honestly tell that they were not involved as bizarre as the case was.
With Casey Anthony I am almost certain something sinister has happened and she was the cause of it.
Now that she has spent 30 days in jail while her sensationalist lawyer dances around legitimate questions on the news shows she now has a sensationalist bail bonds moron Leonard Padilla who has successfully bailed her out of jail.
Let me tell you I don’t think this girls going to get any kind of fair trial (not that I care) with the morons she has in her camp and her off the wall mother…these people need a PR person and even that wont fix the damage.
The investigators haven’t charged her with murder because they don’t have enough tangible forensic evidence yet and they would have a mostly circumstantial case and the defense would ask for a speedy trial…which would probably not be good because if new evidence came up and she was acquitted from the first trial it would be double jeopardy and they couldn’t prosecute her.
So what do you think happened? Was it a tragic accident that Casey and her family are trying to cover up? Was it something malicious and psychotic on Casey’s part? Did Casey Anthony sell her child? Is Casey just guilty of being a horrible parent and her child was abducted?
I have a feeling it was a tragic accident she is trying to cover up.
What do you think?
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wow, last nights show was so horrible. George Anthony tried to commit suicide. George, be strong. There are many people on your side and I am one of them. Even if your daughter did commit this tragedy, its obvious she needs help. You need to be there for Casey right now. Caylee, God rest her soul, is an Angel. She is in the very best place right now, trust me. I Know this is the hardest thing God has ever placed upon anyone, but still trust in God even though your faith is going down hill. We are praying for your entire family.
I want to now explain to those who don’t understand why any parent would support their daughter, or son for that matter. Good parents love their children no matter what it is they do wrong. We try and teach them morals, values, love, respect and all the good things in life. when we fail our children, we are failing ourselves. When we give up on our children, we give up on ourselves. When our children die, one half of us dies as well. Casey is not a monster. She is ill and needs help. Even if this all comes down to the fact she gave the baby to Zani and never saw her again, and that is the truth…. can anyone for one minute only imagine what is running through this young girls head? Not to mention this is now national news, her dad almost lost his life? Each and every family member is effected to some degree and the viewers and news media need to respect that. As i have stated earlier, I too know what its like to lose a child. IT is the worst imaginable pain any human being can suffer. George lost a grandchild and now has to face his own daughters fate. No one can begin to remotely understand, unless they too have lost a child as well.
I am really praying right now that the duct tape that was found on the gas can in the garage of the Anthony home is not the same duct tape found on the childs mouth. If in fact it is, I would more want to believe that this was done to keep the child quiet. Mabey Casey only thought she was trying to sedate her child so the transfer would not be known by Caylee. It’s really just hard to believe that Casey would deliberately want her child dead. Hard to believe considering she was a very good mother prior that many friends, family and boyfriend could testify to.
If the duct tape in the garage is a complete match, no one is going to believe differently. This could be the worst evidence against Casey if proven. Casey better talk and tell what really did happen and I hope for her sake and her families sake, she does. I myself, I still won’t believe it was done deliberately. I will think she did this to sedate little caylee and to keep her quiet. Its hard with everything that was stated by Casey to think she’s a cold blooded killer. She’s not even my own daughter so I can imagine just how Cindy and George do feel.
well Nancy, due to what happened yesterday, I can only hope you lower your tone and keep your hatred thoughts against Casey to yourself. Talking about evidence is one thing, but to prosecute Casey before a trial, in my opinion, is just totally unprofessional on your part. To even ask how George could be feeling… I’m not getting that from you. How do you think he’s feeling considering the circumstances around this case? Then to put total blame on Casey for the father trying to commit suicide?? how about takeing some of the blame yourself! Was glad to hear that one of your guests did point out to state that the media is not helping.. hello Nancy, the media!! that happens to be YOU as well!! If you feel that bad about it all.. then stop bashing Casey right now! yes, that is how you could begin to start helping. This entire tragedy is one of the worst Cases ever aired. My thoughts and prayers go out to each one of them.
Nancy Grace is a disgrace not only to the news business but as a human being. She loves to toot her horn about once being a prosecutor and maybe that’s all she knows how to do. She has most certainly prosecuted Casey Anthony in the news. She has single handedly ensured that Casey could not get a fair trial no matter what her involvement is. Nancy Grace’s smug comments from the beginning of this tragedy turned to phony crocodile tears for George Anthony last night. The gut wrenching part of this two face display is the fact the she had the biggest hand in driving the poor man to thoughts of suicide. He has lost a beautiful grandchild and all the while Nancy Grace has championed the execution of his daughter too. Nancy Grace, do the world a favor and just report the news without your bias, smug comments and television convictions. Shame on you !
One more thing I forgot to add regarding what Nancy Grace had stated on her show just last night.
Her show prior to last nights.. just one day prior, Nancy talked about Casey getting the electric chair. THEN, after reporting that George tried to commit suicide, Nancy mentions and uses the word ” needle”. What I am saying is Nancy went from the electric Chair as a punishment to stating and saying ” I don’t think Casey would get the needle” as in ” lethal injection”.. and continues to say that the death penatly will probably be taken off the table due to the fact, the only ones who could really ask for such a punishment is the Anthony family.
A day later Nancy and a dollar short. Too late to redeem yourself due to George’s own tragedy. Maybe Just Maybe.. if you kept your mouth shut to begin with and never brought up the death penalty and to go on and on about the electric chair to begin with.. hmmmmm, think its remotely possible you would’t have sent George over the deep end?? I certainly do!! do you think George or any member of the Anthony family wants to even think about the possibility of Casey being put to death? are you just heartless or are you not thinking?? I hope the Anthony family tries to seek damages where your concerned for all you are airing. There are certainly grounds for it.. I hope they see this and do just that.
Just curious……how do you know the abonded house was that of a Gonzales? I have also been a little more than consumed by this case and have never heard that one. I agree the media blows everything out of proportion. However Nancy is no dummy…..but she is dumb in that she is making money off of someone elses hardships. I would certainly like to know what is really going on in this case as is everyone, the media and the case itself are a mess.
Hi Sal, Nancy Grace was the one who had stated it. She came right out and said ” The abandoned house near the crime scene happened to belong to the last name Gonzales.” but it was only stated ONE time. I record Nancy’s shows and watch each episode at least two times just to be sure I have all my facts and then I delete them. Ever since Nancy has stated it, she never questioned it nor did any of her callers ask about it. Of course not, Nancy is seeking a conviction, not trying to get to the truth.. well, fits Nancy being a once prosecutor herself.
Your right Sal!! Nancy is NO dummy for sure, but I can see through to all she is doing. I could not begin to imagine what the Anthony family is going through but I do have somewhat of an idea. What I more then feel bad about with this tragedy, is the fact the Anthonys will grieve for a very long time and won’t think to ” sue” the Nancy Grace show. I certainly think they have grounds for it. Due to the Nancy Grace Show, how can Casey begin to recieve a fair trial? I live in Massachusetts, if I didn’t see the show to begin wtih, I would have never heard of this story.
I just posted again Sal and it did not appear. I googled the abandoned house and there is a video of the entire thing. The house belonged to a person named ” hernan Gonzales”. The news clipping is trying to portray.. the way that I see it, is that they claim it was staged. I truly do not see why or how. The reason they are thinking it was ” staged”, is because they don’t understand why the private investigators never told anyone.
Well thats simple if one is thinking along the lines that Casey in fact sold her child. At that time, the private investigators did not know Caylee’s remains were near by.. and even if they did, there are other lives to consider. There is George, Cindy and even Lee.
If someone in fact buys a child, I’m quite certain they too are going to protect themselves as well… the buyers no doubt, told Casey that if she went to the news or media, told police in all she did, she would be risking her daughters life too. What good is a child when their face is plastered all over the news stands? Certainly can’t sell a child due to things of that nature.
From the very first time Casey spoke to Authorities, Casey came right out and said that the LAST person who had her daughter, was Zenida Gonzales. All this time goes by and the remains to little Caylee are found not far from an Abandoned house with the owners name as ” hernan Gonzales”!! That is NOT coincidental! That goes to show to me, that Casey just may be right.
Just because the investigators did not come forward with this information, does not mean this was staged.. If it was staged, in my opinion, this would be better grounds to come forward. No, instead they kept quiet and tried to scope out the situation themself. Coming forward in saying “anything” would not help the Anthonys what so ever.. as we have witnessed with the way any information is aired, the media more then makes a mess of it all. I do believe, the reason Authorities are more then baffled.. is due to the fact they are not thinking along the lines of Casey selling this child.
At one time it was brought up in the investigation and when Casey was asked if Zenida gave to her any money, Casey came right out and said she did not sell or kill her child and that if she wanted to get rid of her, she could have given the child to her mother and then left the house for good. What i found odd with Casey’s statement, is she clearly came out to state she did not sell her child. The investigator did not ask her if she sold her child.. he just asked if Zenida ever gave to her any money.
Although it may be true that Casey could in fact leave her daughter with her own mother, why would Casey do that? Leaving her with Cindy would not leave Casey with any money. Just my opinion but its what I have thought from the very beginning. It was stated that at one time Casey borrowed a shovel from a neighbor. I had always thought that Casey used that shovel to bury the money until the heat was off. Also, if people want to think she used the shovel to bury her child, how could that be considering it showed Caylee’s remains laying on top of the ground and not buried.
At one time too.. when Casey was being questioned by her parents, Cindy had asked if thier family was being threatened. Right at that moment, Casey broke down and cried, and then stated she can’t say too much due to the fact they were being recorded. George at one time had thought Caylee was kidnapped, it could be too.. That Casey is so worried about being found out about far as her selling the child, that saying her daughter was kidnapped would let Casey off the hook for any of her own involvement. To me, the abandoned house with the owners last name Gonzales, certainly speaks for itself.
HERE IS THE ARTICLE FOUND ON THE ABANDONED HOUSE- MY THOUGHTS TO IT ALL WILL BE AFTER.
The person that once lived in the abandoned house searched by Dominic Casey on November 15 is named Hernan Gonzales, according to WFTV’s Kathi Belich. Jim Hoover, the PI that filmed Dominic Casey ripping up bags and digging around the house, said he was told the person’s name on December 18 by Dominic Casey. Hoover asked D. Casey if the Anthonys knew they were searching in the woods for Caylee and Dominic said YES, and that they also knew the name of the people that owned that house was Gonzales!! If the Anthonys in fact did know they were searching there for a body and also knew the name was eerily similar to Zaneida Fernandez Gonzales, this is a very damning piece of evidence. Because, wouldn’t you think they would immediately contact police so a SWAT team could be sent to the scene with trained investigators?? Instead, we have an amateur video of two pathetic PI’s contaminating everything. Why?
WFTV expert, Bill Shaeffer believes the video of Dominic Casey was A SET UP to benefit the defense. What better way to show that indeed the babysitter took Caylee and killed her? Everyone knows Casey knits together her stories from half-truths–the house near where her body was found used to be lived in by Hernan Gonzales!!!
“Doesn’t matter if the spelling is the same or not,” said Shaeffer. “And by the way, I don’t believe in coincidences. There are too many coincidences in this case to believe this is just a very large cosmic coincidence. Obviously Mr. Casey was receiving instructions on the phone which tells me the evidence is mounting that this is a staged event for the benefit of the defense.” And according to Shaeffer, not a very smartly staged event. He believes Dominic Casey is either guilty of being a poor investigator or a bad actor, and the later is what he suspects.
We already know a psychic from Virginia is now saying she is on the phone with D. Casey the day the video was taken. Kathi Belich’s interview with her is below and is quite interesting. Kathi asks her if she had any previous contact with D. Casey before November 15. She said yes, on the 1st of November. Kathi asked if he contacted her, and she said, no, another person did. (was it really a fellow psychic or someone from the Anthony camp?) She also said the Anthonys were the ones that gave her Caylee’s teddy bear.
To me this whole thing stinks like day old fish, and I would NOT be surprised to learn the psychic and D. Casey were all part of a defense scheme to show that there really was someone named Gonzales who kidnapped, killed and buried Caylee near where they she once lived. Unfortunately for them, it could also show that Casey Anthony told them her daughter was buried there and that the house was once lived in by a Gonzales. IMO, this scenario could very well be the real one. Casey Anthony could have created her imaginary Zanny from the name of the residents of that house.
The only thing bothering me is the Anthonys. Still don’t want to believe they could have known that baby was in the woods dead.
Shaeffer asked the question, what other plausable explanation could there have been other than this was a set up? There just doesn’t seem to be one, but I am inclined to want to think the Anthonys were duped. If Cindy believed Casey was an innocent victim, she would fall hook, line, and sinker for the suggestion that there really was a Zenaida, and she, not Casey, murdered her. The A’s have shown time and time again they are gullible and not good judges of character. Tricking them into going along innocently with a scheme like this would not surprise me. At least, that’s what I would like to believe.
OBVIOUSLY THIS IS SOMEONE’S OPINION AS IS MY OWN. BUT WHY ARE THEY QUESTIONING THE PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS FOR NOT COMING FORWARD AND BLAMING THEM? WHY DIDN’T POLICE DO THEIR JOB IN SEARCHING FOR ANY GONZALES? YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THAT THE POLICE COULD NOT HAVE DONE RESEARCH AND TO SEE A PERSON BY THE LAST NAME GONZALES THAT WASN’T FAR FROM THE ANTHONY HOME? WHY DIDN’T POLICE TAKE IT UPON THEMSELVES TO DO JUST THAT?
SO LETS SUM THIS UP… THE MEDIA WANTS TO SAY THAT THE ANTHONYS PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS ALONG WITH THIS PSYCHIC ARE ALL IN ON THIS ENTIRE THING? YEAH OK, I’M SURE EACH ONE OF THEM ARE INTO GETTING THEMSELVED IN HUGE TROUBLE WITH THE LAW…. NOT!! ARE THEY GOING TO CALL THIS STORY ” CONSPIRACY THEORY” AND THEIR ALL IN ON IT??.. OH BROTHER!
NO, THEY NEED TO HAVE AN OPEN MIND INSTEAD OF THINKING CASEY IS A COLD BLOODED KILLER!! THEY HAVE NEVER OPENED THEIR MINDS TO THAT POSSIBILITY DUE TO THE FACT CASEY ADMITTED SHE HAD LIED IN THE BEGINNING. UNDERSTANDABLE TO ” SOME” DEGREE.. BUT IN SOLVING A CASE THAT COULD INVOLVE A POSSIBLE DEATH SENTENCE, I CERTAINLY WOULD THINK THAT ANY OFFICER OF THE LAW OR EVEN ANY KIND OF AUTHORITY FIGURE, WOULD LEAVE NO STONE UNTURNED. AGAIN, WHEN SOMETHING IS ” STAGED”.. ONE DOES NOT HIDE IT. ONE WOULD COME FORWARD IMMEDIATELY IN HOPES IT WOULD BE BELIEVED. JUST MY OPINION.
The trash bags they have from the crime scene in no way can be matched up to those in the Anthony house. We are talking many months later. I’m quite certain the trash bags the Anthonys use are used up a couple weeks at a time. or maybe even sooner. So how is it possible to even go that route?
If both bags came from the same batch I could see it posible. The bag from the crime scence and the bags used at the Anthony house… too many months in between to make that determination I would think. We go through trash bags in our house about once a week. with that stated, what are they thinking?
Winny the pooh blanket found at the crime scene was confirmed to match what came from the Anthony home. I still don’t see how that ties Casey with the murder. Anything found at the crime scene that matches what was at the Anthony home could in fact have been transfered to the nanny. But it’s not what anyone wants to believe.
Casey not appearing in court shows to me its what her Attorney is advising her to do. Any emotions Casey’s shows will in fact be picked apart by the media as already shown on Nancy Grace.
Nancy Grace has repeatedly displayed a ” one time” video that shows Casey at the jailhouse getting angered with her mother Cindy. Showing that video repeatedly while trying to publically convict Casey only shows new viewers this mother is guilty.
Then Nancy disputes the fact that Casey wants to have a private ceremony at the jailhouse in memory of her daughter. Who is Nancy to state how Casey could be feeling? Who is Nancy to say that Casey should have no right. As of todays date, Casey has not been convicted of murder, she’s been accused of murder. Two entirely different things.
Casey has the right to feel if she wants to, she has the right to think of her daughter and have a memorial of her own if she wants to. No wonder the Anthony lawyer is trying to seek justice for a possible unfair trial.
Even though George tried to take his own life, his suicide note did in fact show he was sticking by his daughters side, just like a good father should. The parents to Casey no doubt are at the edge of destruction for the way the media came in and twisted just about everything and right now, the media is portraying and saying that George and Cindy at this point, are not sure if Casey commited this crime. IF in fact that is remotely true, how can anyone go on what these parents could say or even think given the fact they are grieving. They are more then distraught but Nancy will take just about anything for the prosecutors to make Casey look worse by showing to the world, that the parents are now confused.
Obviously what Casey’s parents are going to think, would weigh heavy against Casey. Which the way I see it, should be sticken from any records due to the shocking aftermath of finding their grandchilds remains.
The ONLY piece of evidence that I’m waiting to hear , is if the duct tape on the gas can is a complete match to what was wrapped around Caylee’s mouth because to me, that is the only piece of evidence that I would see would indict Casey to this murder. All the other pieces of evidence, all the things found at the crime scene that in fact Match those at the Anthony house, could all be items that got transfered over time to the nanny.
Far as the chloroform that was searched on Caseys computor. Nancy is too quick to judge. Later it turns out that Casey’s once ago boyfriend had an advertisement on his myspace that had the word ” chloroform” on it. One does not know what goes through the mind of another when they do a search on google. Casey could have saw that on her boyfriends myspace page and figured she may want to research the word. For the way it was stated on her boyfriends myspace page, I would be just as curious as she.
Thats it for now, I still don’t think Casey killed or intentionally tried to kill her own daughter.
Have you read all of the witnesses transcripts. I’d like to believe also that Casey could not murder her own child. How-ever, the evidence is pileing up against her. There is no nanny,so no evidence got transfered over to the nanny. The house next door the abandoned house…their first name was Zenida.Hence she probably picked those names on her way to dump the body. Casey knew the nieghbourhood, she is a pathological liar. Im sorry but there is just too much coincedence in this case, and the evidence is mounting against her.
Although they do seem to have evidence, does not mean it can not be disputed for what they “think” they have. When it comes to any unsolved case with someone as a suspect, naturally the state will have evidence. but the question is, is it enough to prosecute Casey of murder.
I agree with ya sal in so far that their is too much coincidence in this case.. but what I am seeing is that ” coincidence” is sitting on both sides. for the defence and for the prosecution as well.
Although Casey lied, what young girl doesn’t??? it does not make her out to be a pathological liar. The word ” pathological”, came right from the media that has been hammering on Casey since the story aired.
We have yet to know for sure if there was a nanny or not no different then we have yet to hear if its in fact true that her own parents, George and Cindy Anthony are believing in their daughter or not. The media is saying they are not believing in their daughter but how could that be considering it was stated in George’s suicide note that he in fact supported Casey fully.
Got to hand it to NG ( nancy grace) for making quite sure to have it aired right at the end of her show. She stated that “reports say” that George confided in other people to where he believes his daughter may in fact be the killer. Just what she wants the viewers to believe! and yet, I have yet to hear those facts come from any of her guests on her show.
No it would NOT be good if Casey’s parents admitted to not believing in their daughter. That certainly would weigh quite heavy to a jury just knowing that no one knows their child better then any parent. Nancy has got to make it clear that its in fact what the parents are thinking.. but its not fact, she likes to twist it around and put words into peoples mouths. Far as I knew, George supported his daughter and most likely still does.
Casey is in a no win situation right now with her appearance on television. If she appears saddened, NG would chop that up.. she appeared to laugh at times, and yep… NG chopped that up. For what we see on television as to the way Casey is acting or the way Casey is dressing, I have no doubts she is instructed ” exactly” what to do, what to say, how to act and how to dress, by the lawyer who is representing her.
Parents George and Cindy Anthony as well are in a no win situation. If they appear in court, that would be chopped up as to how they acted.. if they didn’t appear in court, in which they did not.. and yet, there was NG chopping that up. Like I said, I’m still waiting to see if the duct tape was a match to the gas can in the car.. and no word as of yet. If it wasn’t a match, I’m sure we would not hear about that now would we.
This was brought to our attention over a week ago and something tells me that if in fact it was a match.. it would have already been stated. If that comes out to be a match, it will be at that time I will have my doubts about Casey. The rest of the items at the crime scene, means nothing in my opinion. I mean seriously, little Caylee lived at the Anthony home and her body was found at the crime scene.. so does that mean that Casey did it? see my point?
obviously NO duct tape match! from the gas can or home to the crime scene…( caylee’s mouth)
Lets take a look at something similar and tell me what you think.
Example- IF my husbands body was found 10 blocks from our very own house to where, once found.. he had.
1) fully dressed
2) a backpack on b/c he went for a long walk to where it contained.
a) water bottle ( same bottle that matched from the batch at home)
b) a pack of cigs. ( that came from a carton at the house)
c) Clothes from his body that matched to same type of clothes from house.
All of that would NOT mean, I killed my husband…. yet it seems this is the exact same way they are treating Casey and what’s been found at her own daughters crime scene. NG kills me with once being a prosecuter herself, is to let the viewers think this will be hard to prove in court. Really?
If Casey in fact took the time to ” try” and bury her daughter in the back yard, then why wouldn’t she take the same amount of time to bury her daughter where she was found? I still don’t see it. the child was not buried.
MOTIVES- NG is claiming this could be due to family arguments. Not sure about all of you, but what family does NOT have arguments. The last argument Casey and Cindy had however, which truly does kill me on Cindy’s behalf.. but here you have a mother ( Cindy), who all along with many others close to Casey, stated she’s always been a good mom to Caylee. So why the NEED for Cindy to threaten to take Custody?!… Ever?!!! Is it any wonder that Casey gets fed up with her mother to show anger??!! mind you, the anger we do see from Casey, is a ONE time video that Nancy Grace can NOT stop repeatedly airing!!
Nancy Grace is so quick to put Casey down for her no shows in court.. and AGain and Again numerous times over… sometimes I have to wonder just how stupid Nancy Grace is. No wonder why NG is mocked on the show Boston Legal. Which happens to be an excellent show that covers legal issues..BUT CASEY IS NOT SHOWING UP DUE TO WHAT HER LAWYER TELLS HER TO DO!!! GET THAT THROUGH YOUR BLOND HEAD. I mean seriously, if the viewers can not see it for themselves, common sence doesn’t come too easily for many.
Law Experts say they got a solid case. ha ha, thats a good one. Unless they have something else OTHER then whats been aired, I’d say they got nadda, zip, zilch..
Jeff Gardere Guest on Nancy Grace show who is a psychologist, Author of ” love prescription” says, Casey takes no responsibility. Aside Casey being under stress due to trying the case on her own, what does he expect Casey to do at this very minute? duh!!! I just wished that people could understand that Casey can not speak when she wants, can not sit or stand what she wants.. she now sits in jail and has to go through complete instruction what her ” lawyer” is telling her to do.. he may in fact have told her to laugh a few times in court.. how is anyone to know??!! I get it though, I don’t have any issues with ” common sence”.
Police source says ” weve got forensices and Casey has done a good job of incriminating herself”. Just as Casey said, police are not there to help, they are there to prosecute you. My opinion, they have nothing. To this date, I have not seen anything to incriminate her. Are they going on the fact the blanket matches that to the home and all the other things found at the crime scene.. oh brother.
Casey’s Attorney Claims ” Prosecutors are doing a good job with Casey not getting a fair trial”.. kudos, I couldn’t agree more! That statement goes along with “once ago” prosecutors as well, such as Nancy Grace herself!!
Guest Jessica D’onofrio reporter claims that George and Cindy Anthony have not appeared in court or media since body was found. UNTRUE! The parents stopped appearing all together once Nancy Grace made an entire mess of the whole thing. Once the jail house recordings were aired, no thanks to NG, that is when the family could not and would not trust anyone.. why should they? I certainly would do just what they are doing as well.
Prosecutors claim that Casey’s argument with mom generated for Casey to Kill Caylee. I would guess this is not the first family feud nor would I guess it generated a thing other then to hate her mother more. If that is the case, then how could prosectors conclude that Casey thought this entire thing out and to think up the name ” Zenieda, the abandoned house and to make up such a story considering this stemmed from a heated argument to where it was Casey who did this so sudden?? lets sum it up.. argument, immediate kill, think up plan that quick. no way no how. and if thats all the prosecution has.. a good lawyer should have no problem. If that is ” all” the prosecution has.. they are in fact baseing this entire case on circumstantial evidence. Very hard to prosecute on Circumstantial.
The bracelet that got passed security. Hmmmmm, sources say it was Cindy who did this. If so, for the way Cindy has been treating Casey prior, and up till now, this is what I’ve found so far.
1) She threatens her own daughter to take custody. Good mom = no grounds.
2) cindy said at jail- I don’t care about Casey, I only care about Caylee.
3) she repeatedly asks “same” questions that upset Casey.
*bracelet- A reminder to her daughter what she has done to Caylee?? Thats my guess on all of that. I’m sorry, but I don’t care one bit for Cindy as a mother. Very controlling, won’t let Casey make her own decisions as proven by not allowing her daughter to have Caylee at one time adopted out. The way she lash’s out by saying she only cares about Caylee.. the way she acts as a mother and grandmother period!!! controlling? I’d say so. Seems to be the case with many grandparents today.
Thats all for now.
Is it surprising that Casey authorized the selling of her daughters pictures especially given the fact I have pointed out that I believed she sold her daughter to begin wtih??? This is something I can very much relate to due to the fact I too lost a child.
when a mother loses a child, every single picture you have, is a picture you could NEVER part with. There is no amount of money a mother could recieve, to give up her childs photo. To make copies and to sell, is not any different. Now that my very own son is gone, I wouldn’t sell a photo one for even a million dollars. Total disrespect to my son if I ever did.
What is very disturbing aside the fact she is willing to sell those photos, is the fact her daughter isn’t even laid to rest yet. Poor little Caylee deserves so much more respect then what the media has portrayed and a mother who’s shown no respect for selling her daughter to begin with. Well, it all adds up to me… and I’ll be more then surprised if it ends up any other way.
In Casey’s world.. to me, she’s going for all or nothing. All- meaning just that. To keep to her story and to say she handed the baby to Zani and never seen her again.. Nothing- She’d rather portray herself as totally innocent then to let out those half truths and come clean with her part in it all. To claim someone kidnapped the child sounds so much more reasonable to her then to out and out state, I did something horrible and sold my child. Again, she can think to sell photos BEFORE her child is buried, what makes anyone think she didn’t sell the child to begin with?? Even after the child is buried.. is sick in itself.
For the way Cindy acts as a mother, Casey was too afraid to ever tell the ” entire” truth. If the child was in fact Kidnapped, that would definitly take Casey off the hook for any wrong doing.. so Casey keeps thinking. I was a young girl as well at one time, I used a ” kidnapping” story to eliminate a real reason why I ran away. Stupid I know, I was a young and very nieve girl at the age of 14. My father was the kind of person who was too hard and too over bearing so I couldn’t face the real truth. Exactly the way I see Casey.. I feel I can read into what she says and what she’s done.
I think with all that has happened to poor little Caylee she deserves a very special day that indicates love. Each and Every year she will forever and always be remembered if in fact her sevices where held on Valentines day. Although this tragic story is very well known right now, eventually after time, all will fade to the public. Given the entire circumstances and being the biggest crime investigation to solve, Giving that one day to Caylee will always keep her alive, even to the public as well and Caylee has more earned that right to have a day all to herself… rememberance of love. She certainly has captured so many hearts around the world, including my own.
Mike Brooks filled in for NG on Friday Feb 6, 2009. Nice for a change but I certainly didn’t like him at all. Mike Brooks was trying to point out how the defense is using the media to their advantage. Hows that? and Why not? Hows that- are you kidding? Seems to be the prosecution HAD no problem using the media to prosecute Casey soooo.. Why not- Why not play the same game. After all these months of being bashed from the prosecution using the media, I think its about time the defense use it as well..
Mike Brooks and his so called sympathy for George Anthony and how he’s going to handle Caylee’s services given his recent attempt at suicide but had NO regards prior so shut up baldy!! Thats right, YOU Mike Brooks!! I don’t care of your thoughts or sympathy towards ” any” member of the Anthony Family!! If George didn’t recently attempt suicide, you wouldn’t give one rats ass of his feelings right now!! Suicide or not.. George is going through hell regardless!!
In watching some of the old footage of the Anthony Family at home and seeing George trying to hose down the neighbors for harrassment, what the hell is up with that? Why wasn’t any officers of the law stopping the neighbors for tormenting this family??!! Isn’t it obvious that the law is not remotely doing their own job in protecting this family? Guilty or not, that is totally disturbing!
Then you have the Zenieda Gonzalas who has a civil case against Casey. I’m sorry but that case needs to be thrown out. For the fact this civil suit is against Casey and the fact Casey never pointed the finger at her, then this case is retarded.
Mike Brooks, the guy filling in for NG last friday, shows a previous clipping of what Casey had stated. Casey said in a jail house interview with Cindy to where Cindy basically said to Casey what would she like to tell Zani if she could.. and Casey said ” All we want is Caylee back and we’ll forgive her”. Mike Brooks comes back and says ” Right there!! she said she’d forgive her”.. Well Mike, Caseys long ago statement was based on NOT knowing at the time that her child was dead!! Now that Casey knows what did happen to her child, I’m certainly sure she would not forgive Zani anymore. What was your point with even bringing that up?? aside that Mike, how do you personally know that Zani the nanny does NOT exist? Authorities never took the time to find that out and don’t think for one minute that won’t be addressed in court. Yes, the defense team is going to want to know why the police dropped the ball in trying to find out who this woman really was. They certainly didn’t give it their entire all to find out. If the police come back and ” try” and claim that Casey had lied in the beginning so they didn’t see the point, that isn’t going to be good enough. Again, this is now a murder trial and no stone should be left unturned.. so right there, will not be good for the prosecution.
Guest on NG, Meg who is a defense Attorney states ” If they had a defense they would have already given what they knew to a prosecutor to clear her name and all would be dropped”. So not true! It would all depend on what really happened to begin with and far as I see it, you don’t think Casey has a case. The way I see it, kidnapping… that the defense is claiming, if they went to try and clear their name right at that very moment, they would ” risk ” Caylee’s life. So NO Meg, they would NOT come forward. I am claiming that Casey sold her child and if she did, NO, she would NOT come forward to clear her name based on the exact same reason, if not Caylee, other members of her family would be at risk. Meg is addressing this story, as is NG and baldy, Mike Brooks….that Casey killed her child and if she didn’t, then why not come forward. It isn’t that cut and dry all of you, so that is why they did not!
It was aired that a public memorial for Caylee Anthony will be Tuesday Feb 10, 2009 at first Baptist Church in Orlando Florida and at least 5,000 people are expected to attend. There is also a list of people who are not allowed to attend as instructed by Cindy Anthony. One of the people on that list is Bounty Hunter leonard Padilla. Leonard acts as if he doesn’t care but one can tell he does. I am GLAD he is not allowed to attend. For what reason? Although Leonard did in fact put up 500,000 to bail Casey out and did in fact participate in the search of little Caylee, this is the same man who tried to get information out of Casey that was ALL used to incriminate her!! This is also the same man to where another man accused Leonard of trying to make money off this case and by thinking to set up remains in another location… yes that is right, its exactly what Leonard did. Its why leonard had to be subjected to a polly graph test. According to Leonard, although he was asked to take one, they never followed through with it. I find that hard to believe, at any rate, Leonard has more then chopped up Casey.. and in fact Cindy as well. Hello, I would eliminate this guy from going as well. He’s not there to pay his respects to Caylee.. he is there to ” report” back as to how each family memeber acted at this service.. to where THIS IS ABOUT LITTLE CAYLEE LEONARD…. give it a rest for christ sakes!!
Jessica D’onofrio Reported that the defense is going on ” wrongfully accused, who may have done this, doesn’t want to say because they don’t want it tried in the media. Hmmmmm, wrongfully accused, I’d certainly say so and I can certainly see the media trying so hard to get information out of the defense team just so they can pick that apart too.. and make an entire mess once again. Just because the defense team has NOT come forward with the information that NG would like to see… means they are being smart!! doesn’t mean for one minute they don’t have a case!!
I don’t understand at all why it is that Casey can not attend her daughters services given the fact she has NOT been tried yet. What is going to happen if Casey is not found guilty of murder? One can’t go back in time to re-do a burial or services!! Doesn’t matter if Casey is found guilty after the fact… for it is FACT she is still waiting on a trial date. Right this minute, she has not been found guilty!! I think this is just totally wrong.
Facts seem to have very little to do with case so far. It would appear to me that for Casey to be convicted the prosecution will need the two points all murder cases revolve on. They will need “motive” for which a reasonable theory has yet to be stated. The prosecution will also have to somehow place Casey at the crime scene. Without these main points of any murder trial I can only assume the prosecution has not layed all their cards on the table yet. If they have I fear Casey will join the infamous O.J. in all time greatest blundered trials.
Special Day For Caylee Marie Anthony. My prayers and thoughts are with her and her entire family. God bless.
For some reason, this site is not posting my posts anymore. So this might be it far as what I’ve wanted to say. Such a shame. oh well
Well now, that seemed to have posted. I’ve copied and pasted what I wanted to say since Feb 11, 2009. Hopefully this time it will post due to the fact I have tried three times now. Funny, if this does post, all I have said about the duct tape was aired right after I said it. First, I will wait to see if this goes through and then post my thoughts on the duct tape.
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Feb, 11, 2009
The services for little Caylee were heartfelt and very touching given by George, Cindy and Lee Anthony. My prayers are definitely with this entire family.
After watching it online and then again on NG (nancy Grace), for the way NG picked apart each and every emotion George, Cindy and Lee had done or said, is it any wonder why Casey did not attend? Right now, Casey does have to think about her own life.
A life that’s been picked apart by the media and a media that has already convicted someone of murder before she herself has been heard by a jury of 12. If Casey attended her daughters funeral, each emotion she had would in fact be taken for a guilty sign by NG. and brought up at her up coming trial. NG herself, has already openly admitted that everything George Anthony had stated in the ceremony for Caylee, would in fact weigh heavy at the trial, so what is that really saying about Casey if she in fact attended?
Lee Anthony Gave heart felt statements as well, he included the initials CMA and in doing so, he kissed the bracelet he had on his wrist. The bracelets going around, were about little Caylee…. then comes NG with wanting to twist all Lee said and make it about Casey in so far to say, he was sending a coded message. This family can’t win for the life of them no matter what they do… or what they say. Which is the biggest reason why the entire family did NOT want the media around. A day to remember Caylee alone was not given to this family what so ever.
Although Cindy’s eulogy was heartfelt as well, she referred to having three children when she only has two. Again, Cindy displays a grandmother who takes it over the top. Casey wanted a burial for her daughter Caylee. Casey wanted a place to go to so she could grieve when the time came. Being Casey is behind bars right now, she had no choice but to hand her rights to little Caylee over to her parents so Caylee could be laid to rest and remembered. It was stated by Casey in a statement that was read by her Attorney, that she knows ” they” cremated her. Casey did not want her daughter cremated but Cindy in fact took it upon herself to do what “she” wanted instead of what the mother to Caylee wanted.
If the remains have not yet been cremated, I am quite certain its what Cindy Anthony has planned. Cindy’s reasoning for cremation are to avoid others in trying to tamper with a loved one’s eternal resting place. This is not for Cindy to decide, she’s a grandmother but never took on that role. Just because Cindy was in the birthing room when Caylee was born who held her for the very first time, does not make Cindy mommy in any way. Again, Cindy like a lot of grandmothers in today’s times, has to understand their grandchildren have mommy’s and not to take the role of someone your not. I more then feel bad for Casey where her mother is concerned and yet NG has the nerve to continuously play an angered Casey that was aired in a jail house recording just to show to the world that Casey is a heartless cold blooded killer. Casey was only showing her feelings towards her own mother who more the frustrates her.
The Anthony family wanted to make it very clear that they love Casey unconditionally. Its what good parents do. To never give up on their child no matter what happens in life. That is more then normal coming from good people. Picked apart by NG yet again. If nothing was stated by the Anthony family regarding Casey, that as well would have been picked apart too. Certainly a no win situation.
Extremely Sad- you have a mother in jail who is being accused on paper of murder but already prosecuted on television by the media. All of Casey’s rights have been taken away. She can no longer be heard in a way that’s to her advantage and the sad part of this entire story is the fact that the law states ” innocent until proven guilty”. What happened to that law and why isn’t it being displayed in that manor? When a loved one is lost and a loved one is remembered or buried, that’s a one time event. An event that can never be re-done and if in fact Casey is cleared of being a cold blooded murderer, everything stated is now gone for her. How sad is that? No one gives this girl the benefit of the doubt what so ever and by law, we are suppose to.
Nancy Grace- Wether Casey is guilty or not, who gave you that right to use your television show against people before they’ve had their day at trial? Casey is not your client nor are you representing anyone in this case. You do a show to try and sway the people of America To think entirely your way not to mention having guests on your show such as Susan Moss as a back up when you don’t like anything a defense Attorney is trying to say. What happened to the duct tape you aired? A piece of evidence you obviously thought was going to be against Casey to where you had no problem rambling on about only to see that got immediately dropped. Was it not a match? You should have aired that. God forbid something goes out to the defendant. To take someone else’s tragedy to make a name for yourself… and you talk about others who try and profit. Trust me honey, your day will come so don’t ever sit back and wonder when that time comes, what the hell it is you ever did that was wrong. To be a once ago prosecutor in a court of law should NOT give you the right to publicly prosecute someone else before given a chance to be heard by our legal system, a jury of 12. Tooting your own horn will someday come back to haunt you. Karma is certainly a bitch.
Casey was a once loving mother prior to being locked up. All of Casey’s family and friends including a once ago boyfriend has and can testify to that. All of the photo’s shown of Casey with Caylee certainly speak for themselves. then as we know, Casey gets accused of Murder. The word here is ” accused”. Its not a conviction and until that happens, people are suppose to treat a person with respect and dignity. People are basing this case on circumstantial evidence and speculation and all because of that, Casey can not be heard. Casey could not attend her daughters services for the ” obvious” reasons. Casey is the one who should have had the right to run this entire show. All of the services should have been done under Casey’s wish’s. Casey did not want a public memorial. Casey should have got just that. Casey did not want cremation. Casey should get just that. Casey wanted a private family ceremony and everything I’ve mentioned was taken away from this girl. Shame on our country and shame on you NG for making sure people from all around the world view Casey as a cold blooded monster.
If everything you air and everything you say was AFTER A CONVICTION.. then all the more power to you! You made sure to take away a mothers right to bury her child the way she wanted done JUST because your feelings are… she killed her child. That’s not for you to decide… who are you?? a once ago prosecutor.. that is all!! Until Casey gets “convicted” of murder, my mind is open to what ever could have happened. Although I feel this girl sold her baby, does not remotely mean I am right. My heart is certainly with Casey right now and if I had the money, I would pay for her defense team. If she previously abused little Caylee to where there were many reports proven just that, then I’d have something to definitely go on.. but what is definite right this minute, is Casey may have shown some faults of lying.. but when it came to Cayee, her beautiful little girl… everyone who has known them has in FACT stated, that Casey loved her child and was more then good to her. Go on the Facts and not what you think.
when someone is looking at a divorce case and both parties are bashing the other, when it comes to the children, that is totally separate. Meaning, if you have a mother that lied in her marriage, cheated numerous times in her marriage, stole in her marriage.. but was loving to her children.. its the ” loving to her children” part that counts far as custody goes and custody goes right to the mother. Unless mind you, it is proven that the mother was abusive towards her kids. In putting that aside and looking into the Case with Casey and her daughter, its already been established she loved her daughter ” prior’ to being accused and that’s exactly the way Casey should be treated right up until the time she is heard and convicted if she even is. No rights to her child should be taken away until something is proven. Speculation does not mean proven. Circumstantial does not mean proven.
As it was already aired, although those rights to Caylee were given to Casey far as any services go, Casey was put up against a wall with this one. She gave those rights to her mother knowing very well she would NOT get her private ceremony. I’m sure Casey was hoping her mother would go by her wishes and have a casket and a burial but as we see, Cindy Anthony likes to take her own control. That has been proven many times over and if that were my mother, I would have told her long ago to take a back seat and start acting like a grandmother instead of a mother to little Caylee. When Casey first became pregnant, she wanted her child adopted out. That is not so terrible to say. That is a choice we as mothers are given. Being Casey was so very young, maybe she figured she couldn’t handle the responsibility. But that right was taken away from Casey by her mother. A mother that should have stepped aside and let her own daughter make her own decisions. If Cindy went by what Casey wanted to begin with, this story would have never ended tragically.
Casey is a victim as well and yet I know anyone reading this is not going to remotely think like that. I can see through all the media lies and focus on all that Casey has said. Yes she lied, but she was scared and trying to think up quickly what to say and what to do next under investigators that were stripping her rights when she should have already been given a lawyer. ( the media can lie and its ok but if Casey lies, she’s a monster) If Casey can sell her daughters photos to gain money for a good defense team and if Casey could think “adoption” before her child is born, then why is it out of the question that Casey thought to sell her child? To use the excuse of a kidnapping was most likely to take the heat off of her to a controlling freaked out mother. Casey is a child folks, she isn’t going to think clearly. Again, I don’t support this if she sold her child.. but she didn’t just sell her to anyone out there. She sold her to a woman who she thought would take the best care of her and yes, tried to profit as well. Those are signs of someone who is ill and someone who’s had a lifetime of being controlled herself as we have seen numerous times coming from Cindy Anthony. I am more then sure that Casey did not want her own child dead and did all she could to protect what she did from the media for a reason!
If Casey told authorities or told her parents the ” real” truth, their lives could have been in danger which is why Casey has left that out. Now that the child’s been found murdered, Casey’s instructed by her lawyers to keep quiet just knowing that everything said and done, is everything that will be used as evidence against her. It certainly does not surprise me in the least that Casey has remained hidden and silent.. and as I see, Nancy Grace and her bull statements that show an entirely different situation. I think its more then sad this family at the very least could not have their moment of remembrance while thinking in the back of their heads how this will all be displayed to the public in a twisting and sick kind of way… just the way Nancy Grace airs and continues to air this story.
Very discouraging.. it let me post the post above, so I tried YET again to put out what I’ve wanted to say since February 11th and it won’t go through. Is the moderator of the site here at all. I’ve tried personally writing to you ( moderator) to see what the problem is and you have not written back. I tried emailing my husband my words so he could try and post it, but it won’t let him. What is up with that? I’ll try again tomorrow.. I’m getting behind, hope the problem gets fixed soon or just shut the site down. ty. Donna
Donna, I am not withholding any of your comments. Your comments are set to be auto approved. The only way I can think of that your comments aren’t published is if
a) you’ve used profanity
b) you’ve included more than one link into your comment.
Those are rules that automatically send comments into the spam filter. No one is intentionally censoring you.
Donna, i just checked the auto spam filter and found your comment. I don’t know what you said to tip it off, but it was automatically marked spam. Please make sure the aforementioned standards are kept and you shouldn’t have any problems.
Thank you Daniel for checking into that for me. I will try and submit it again but if you could actually see my post, you would see that I did not use any profanity or use any kinds of links to kick it out. Thanks again Daniel.
After watching the latest with this story on Nancy Grace and trying to piece all the evidence mounding against Casey. I still have not changed my mind far as thinking the child was sold.
Although its much easier for the prosecution and media to point that finger directly towards Casey in the death of her daughter Caylee, in my opinion, I do believe its because they won’t open their minds to the possibility to everything I’ve been thinking to begin with.
My main concern was the duct tape and to see if it matched. Right now, it has yet to be determined if any finger prints were taken forensically to match Casey’s … but my guess is that it is a match. With all the evidence they have, and the fact they did find heart shaped stickers of Casey’s.. this is what I am finding to be true. With the sticker, and all the evidence they’ve shown.
Heart shaped stickers- Casey put the heart shaped sticker on the duct tape as I believe.. she was instructed by the sitter/buyer to sedate little Caylee thus the chloroform smell in the car. Although Casey wanted to move forward in her life, I feel she didn’t want her child dead and as bad as this is going to sound, I believe Casey put that sicker on her child’s mouth as a symbol of love to her daughter. Not believing her own daughter would actually die but more in a way to wish this child good luck with her new parents she would someday be with.
Articles found – Although the media is trying to show direct matches from the crime scene to the Anthony home, I don’t see any of the “articles” mentioned that would convict Casey of Murder. ANY of the items mentioned, could in fact been transferred over time to the sitter/buyer right from the moment of the last time seen, or in fact weeks or months prior to little Caylee missing. For all the months Casey had admitted to knowing this sitter, I don’t believe for one minute that the sitter was never in the Anthony home to where she could in fact pick up or take a trash bag here or there. Both parents work, both parents and Lee may not have been home at the time when Casey had the sitter over. Just a thought.
Casey’s diary- For all that Casey had stated in her Diary, for all she had said, it still could come from someone who in fact sold her child. Think about that for a minute. Casey said something like ” I think I have good judgement, I won’t regret my decision”.. along those lines.
what about the decomposing smell? – My theory. I think there’s great possibility That after Casey sedated Caylee to more or less just go to sleep not realizing the chemicals were too over done, that it’s possible after doing so, the sitter took her car for sometime after.. the child dies in the car and the sitter takes the body out. When Casey finally gets the car back, she doesn’t quite know what the smell is. Unless one has ever been around a dead body, how would anyone know? Casey may in fact had enquired about the smell in her car to the sitter and the sitter responds back with ” other chemicals” that got mixed. This is why Casey at one point came up with that theory herself. Casey tell’s half truths as we have seen and twists them to some degree.
Casey’s motives- Never really feeling like Caylee in fact was ever her child to begin with. Certainly can see that with the actions of a grandmother who tries and plays both roles of grandma and mother. Although NG tries to say that Cindy was in a position to care for a child that in fact would result as being called mommy, I too at one time lived with My parents for a brief period of time long ago with two children, but never did my mother take over entirely nor did she ever try and take on the role of being mommy. Casey as well at one time, wanted to have the baby adopted out. I swear, if Cindy just stepped aside back then, the entire Anthony family would not be in the position they are today. Adoption Casey wanted.. so why would selling of a child be any different other then money? almost close to what she wanted to begin with.
It doesn’t make any sense for Casey to have killed her own child just by other things that were once witnessed. On top of that, they described the news that Casey got when hearing about her daughter being found as dead, to hyperventilate and ask for medication. The media is having a tough time in coming up with answers as to why Casey is acting like that considering what we have witnessed with mothers in the past who have actually been convicted of murdering their own children. Again, if Casey murdered her own child intentionally, I don’t think she would show emotions such as the way she had. Casey didn’t want her child dead, she only wanted her life back. Cindy certainly didn’t make Casey feel like she was this child’s mother as it was. So in Casey’s mind, why not sell the baby?
Why not sell the baby? I get caught, I can say she was kidnapped. With Casey trying to scramble in how this is going to play out, she comes up with the kidnapping theory. The sitter/buyer who now see’s this is all over national news, she is thinking this child is no longer needed or any good to be sold for much bigger money. So the sitter takes the body, puts it in a bag and dumps her right on the property that belongs to a Gonzala’s figuring that Casey can take the entire heat for it down the road.. and it seems to be working for the fact most the country is thinking that Casey in fact murdered her very own child. However, the sitter as well isn’t so bright considering the fact of where the body was actually placed. On the property of a Gonzala’s member.
So, how can Casey go out and have a good time after the fact of her daughter missing? because its what she wanted to begin with, her freedom and thinking little Caylee will be much better off for the fact her own parents are not recognizing herself to be mommy to this child… a child she wanted adopted out because she probably didn’t figure she could handle such responsibility.. its why adoption is an option to begin with.
The truth to this story may never be known due to a mother who is too embarrassed to come forward with the entire truth and even If Casey tried to state the truth, who would remotely believe a word she is saying due to the previous lies? If Casey decided to come forward and just tell everyone she sold her child, for the fact it ended in murder, Casey would heavily be charged anyway. I believe that Casey is really thinking she can in fact pull off this kidnapping theory as this would not only put her in a much better situation with the media, she wouldn’t have to face the wrath of her parents either. You don’t take a once loving mother that was witnessed by many to a cold blooded killer in the end. Someone along the road would have witnessed ” something ” not right with Casey but that certainly doesn’t seem to be the case. You also don’t find a mother who outright killed her child to act in which the manor she did when she was told of the news. I know and can feel Casey loved
Caylee to pieces, but didn’t figure she could handle such responsibility on top of not feeling like the child’s mother to begin with.
OHHHHHHH DONNA!
YOU ARE DEFINITELY IN LA-LA LAND!!!……ENTERTAINING TO READ BUT SO FAR FROM THE TRUTH
WAKE UP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!
THIS GIRL KILLED HER CHILD (EVERYTHING’S THERE TO PROVE IT) FROM “EARLY SEARCHES IN HER COMPUTER… TO ALL THE OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE!
INCALIFORNIA, Thank you for reading what I am finding out of this unreal story. Your right though, in la la land maybe… but not with something like this. I may have some things off no doubt for the fact I don’t know any of the parties on a personal level. But I do think I’m a pretty good judge of character due to other situations in real life that has played out exactly the way I once thought.
We really haven’t seen how the defense is going to handle any of this evidence and as we know, evidence can be deceiving. I have no doubt that the defense team is going to be able to handle it all just fine.
I just want to say something regarding what you said with the ” early searches in her computer”. When someone does a search in google, one does not see what is going through the mind of the person doing so. I’d hate to see someone judge me as a person due to my own searches of the past. One of the searches Casey made, lets take the chemical ” chloroform”. It was said at a later date, that there was an ad on her boyfriends myspace with the same word in it. Who knows what was running through Casey’s mind at the time.. that is the part no one can see.. what goes through the mind of another.
In watching the NG show just last night I believe, NG starts saying that they do have footage of Casey getting the news her daughters skull was found and yet at the bottom of the t.v screen, in blue it is scrolling to say ” no footage was taken”. So which is it? Be careful what your hearing as to what they have or what they don’t have far as evidence goes and remember, any information you do hear is coming from the media.. may as well be reading something out of the national enquirer when it comes to getting information. What is real that a person can go off of, is the jail house recordings. In hearing “everything” Casey had said, I was able to pick up on a few ” key” things that I don’t think anyone is seeing far as Casey’s testimony goes.
When my own son was killed, I was quite taken back with what was stated in the news paper. The news ” media” took what someone had said, who was not credible if I may add, and more or less made it fact. Anyone reading it would believe it was true… why?? Because its in the paper. So I do see how things can be taken quite wrong. Mind you, what was printed was not damaging to my son’s case but you best believe that I as the next of kin had it out with the newspaper for what was printed once I threatened lawsuit. After that, they just left the story alone and the page they once had online was taken off.
I’ve been through alot in my own life and started out at a very young age. I have experience through the legal system far more then anyone really deserves to where I have always come out on top. I have experienced how police do their job when it comes to crimes right down to how they use people to their own advantage. The best thing any of the Anthony’s could have done right from the get go, was to keep their mouths shut and hire a lawyer. A lot of people don’t quite understand why your rights are read to begin with. They don’t use those rights is what I’m saying.
Having the experience to real life situations such as I do and getting to know people and how they respond to certain things, I do believe I can see through the Media and how they portray a story. One things for sure, I certainly hope I am dead wrong in thinking the way I am when it comes to this horrible tragedy. At any rate, it helps me to continue in life knowing my own pain of losing a child is at times, more then I can handle.
I’M SORRY ABOUT THE LOSS OF YOUR SON! BEING A MOM MYSELF “NOTHING” COMPARES TO THE DEVASTATING REALITY OF LOSING A CHILD!… IT HAS TO BE THE MOST “HORRIBLE” EXPERIENCE ANY “GOOD” PARENT WOULD HAVE TO FACE!
I DON’T WATCH NACY GRACE BUT I HAVE HEARD ALL OF THE TAPES WHEN THEY FIRST INTERROGATED CASEY ANTHONY, IT WASN’T NOTHING WRITTEN (IT WAS HER OWN VOICE ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS) AND I’M SORRY BUT THE GIRL IS LYING, LYING AND LYING… ((( SHE DIDN’T SELL HER CHILD )))), THERE WAS “NEVER” A BABYSITTER… MAYBE THERE WAS….. BUT IT WAS IN HER “IMAGINARY” MIND!
THERE’S ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBTS IN MY MIND, THE OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE IS THERE, COME ON!
IT’S JUST LIKE THE OJ SIMPSON CASE!…. ABSOLUTELY GUILTY BUT GOT AWAY WITH MURDER… HOPEFULLY THIS TIME THINGS WILL TURN OUT DIFFERENT AND THIS GIRL WILL ROTTEN IN JAIL FOR WHAT SHE DID!… I BELIEVE IN GIVING THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT AND LIKE THEY SAID: “INNNOCENT TILL PROVEN GUILTY” BUT CASEY’S OWN ATTITUDE, DEMEANOR, BEHAVIOR, LIES, LACK OF EMOTIONS AND ONCE AGAIN I REPEAT “THE OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE” LEADS ME TO BELIEVE 100% THAT SHE IS GUILTY AS SIN… CAN’T WAIT FOR THE TRIAL AND SEE HER SEND TO PRISON FOR THE REST OF HER LIFE… THAT’S WITHOUT A DOUBT THE MOST “AWFUL CRIME” ANYONE CAN DO… KILL YOUR OWN CHILD … ABSOLUTELY EVIL!
INCALIFORNIA, Thank you for your very kind words regarding the loss of my son. The only way I can get through each day is to take it on one day at a time. Closure for me has been the hardest due to an unsolved case at this point but I do have hope that the people involved will one day pay the ultimate price, if not here on earth.. I have faith in God they won’t get away with it. I would have to state it is the worst pain the human body could ever suffer. Other then that, there really are no words. But I more then appreciate your heart felt words. Ty.
Far as this case, I 100% agree with you that Casey is a liar. I can see she has lied by her own admission. Do you think she lied by any chance to protect anyone in her family? See, I think that’s where the lies came into place to begin with.. again I could be wrong, but so could you and I will be glued to the set when the trial does begin.
I in no way think Casey is innocent by far. I know she’s guilty of something, just not murder. It’s more then obvious to me that all we have seen on television regarding Casey’s attitude, Demeanor, Behavior.. lies aside, are shown in a way to benefit the prosecution. Some people handle hard situations much differently then another aside what I’m trying to say.
Far as the OJ case, its a shame the police didn’t tamper with evidence as they too wanted to see OJ go down. If OJ actually got convicted of murder at the time, no doubt all kinds of rioting would have been provoked due to the fact he was black. Most african Americans who tuned into that case, more acted like they won a price when OJ won at his trial. Well, we saw how that all played out and knew he was guilty from the start. If you remember correctly though in the OJ case, OJ had a ” history” of abuse towards his wife in the past.. I’m not seeing it the same far as Casey goes. It has been confirmed by “many” that Casey loved her child and in fact was a good mother.
Glad to see someone else joining in though, please do stay with it, I enjoy reading all your thoughts on the subject =)
Dear Donna
I had written you a longer reply this morning but it didn’t get posted…I think it was because I forgot to post my email link (which is required). Once again I’m so sorry for the loss of your son and I agree with you 100% when it comes to “closure”… I don’t think there’s ever closure when it comes to “losing one of your kids”, and it must be so hard to get through each day, I can’t even begin to imagine, but I’m sure GOD gives you the strength to go on each day and I’m positive that someday “justice” will come…. If is not here on earth, it will be done by our creator!… And also let me add that I’m confident you will see your son again, someday:-)
Regarding the Casey Anthony case:
I guess we will find out a lot when the trial comes huh?… It’ll be interesting to hear witnesses and see all the evidence… This case is so unusual and it has so many twists and turns!
I will be checking this site and read all the interesting thoughts from everyone that posts!
talk to you soon:-)
Dear INCALIFORNIA,
I would have expected more people to join seeing as how it once started out like that. Then after sometime, I could see I was pretty much the only one posting! lol. Again, I am so glad your going to be around to post as well =)
I at one time had the same problem far as posting and it not going through. The best thing I found that works pretty well, is to type your post in an email. Then copy and paste it to here. This way, if it doesn’t post, you can try it again and your words are not lost. I always find too that my writing is not so well written, too wordy at times!! In reading some of my previous posts, I can now see how I could have summed it up so much better. Need to work on that =(
Far as the trial, yeah.. I don’t want to miss that. I will feel so horrible for the Anthony Family if in fact it is true by a jury of 12 that Casey did in fact kill her child. I suppose its so hard for me to think anyone could be down right sick enough to do so. I could NOT imagine anyone taking any life like that. This story is sad enough then to add to it all. My heart goes out to George Anthony the most. Poor guy! To him, its not just losing a grandchild, it will be losing a daughter as well. Even though we can have our bad thoughts about Casey, it is still his own child/daughter. Little Caylee was so damn cute! She melted my heart the first time I saw her. The day it was aired that little Caylee’s remains were found, inside I cried. Hit home pretty hard for all of us watching.
*Thanks for putting a smile on my face today. a bit teary eyed but in a very good way… to know ” someday” I will one day see my son again… although it is going to seem like forever to me, I do hope its only a short time for him. ‘Hug and love your children each and everyday as we never know if we have tomorrow”. I’m sure you’ve heard that before, but the meaning to that doesn’t really set in until you lost someone so precious to you. Its really a shame we can take that for granted at times.
Time to pull myself together.. the strength that God gave me sometimes is not enough but again, one day at a time. I’m smiling though INCALIFORNIA as I do know your words are true and believe me, they are so appreciated. =)
back to the trial- Bad enough all that has happened in this entire case.. I would NOT want to be in those shoes that the Anthony’s are wearing. Although I don’t agree with some of the Parenting on Cindy’s behalf, I know we are not perfect people and no one deserves all that has taken place thus far. They have got to be pretty numb at this point. My prayers are certainly with them!!! Good to hear from you INCALIFORNIA!
Hey Donna:-)
Nice to hear from you again:-)
I also feel sad for George Anthony, he really seems like a nice guy and he has shown so much pain thru all of this.
You are ABSOLUTELY right!… I can’t even begin to imagine the pain the Anthony’s are going thru, I believe Cindy truly-truly loved little Caylee (the Anthonys were the sole providers for that little girl- it’s obvious from the look of her bedroom, clothes, toys, attention, and overwhelming love they had for her) and it must be so hard to come to the realization that you not only lost your beloved grand-daughter to this “awful-awful crime” but also might lose you only daughter as well.
I don’t want to judge them (even though sometimes Cindy Anthony bugs me sometimes and her parental skills leave me confused) but only GOD knows what’s going thru their minds and I wouldn’t like to be in their shoes not even for a second!
You seem like a great person Donna… and you know what? that’s how every single person should think according to what the bible said: We shouldn’t judge… We should try to see the best in people… But then again we are only humans… and there are EVIL people walking among us, people that have done , do and will do the unthinkable… It’s the reality of life!
I also cannot believe that a mother could kill her own child… It’s beyond my comprehension, because my kids to me are the “reason” why I breathe everyday… But that is me!… and yo… and thousands and millions of mothers who would “never do any harm to their kids”…
I ask for JUSTICE for that poor innocent precious little girl, and I have FAITH in GOD that justice will come:-)
Once again, I will be visiting the site again (of course!) and exchanging thoughts with you girl!
Great tip: I did an email and the pasted here:-)
Have a great day!
Although being a Monday and no new information until tonight, ( that I know of), I wanted to post my thoughts on how the case ” might” play out. I am a huge fan of Boston Legal. I think they show real life trial stories and how they play out. Mind you, Boston Legal shows trials under Massachusetts law and I’m sure its different depending on what state but probably pretty close to the same gist. With that in mind, I would have to say this-
Unless Casey outright admits she killed her own child and the fact that no one seen her do it, It’s going to be pretty hard to convict someone of first degree murder based on ” circumstantial evidence”. I know in the state of Texas, it takes three people to see you do it ( death penalty) unless you confess to the crime. Its also going to depend and weigh very heavy on our jury of 12 as well. The key to a conviction of any person on murder charges, is to ” convince” a Jury your right. However, the Jury also has to follow rules. Any Jury member that see’s ” reasonable doubt, will lead to a “no conviction of Murder” for Casey Anthony. I see lots of ” reasonable doubt” just based on the evidence provided to the media.
On watching the jail house recordings ( part three) for about the fifth time, the segment that shows Casey getting angered with her parents and Nancy Grace trying to twist that around to show Casey is not cooperating with her parents- It floors me. There Casey was at the time ” trying” to tell her parents that she is NOT in control of the situation in so far – Casey tried numerous times to explain that she can’t just snap her fingers when she wants to talk or see who she wanted to. I would have to state, Casey is right. She’s in Jail for Christ sakes, how can Casey begin to do this? Aside how we feel about Casey, what she is saying is fact. Casey goes on to tell her parents and to explain that at the time, she had already been behind bars for an entire month. If there was something new to tell, she would have done so.. and yet there is Cindy trying to get new information. Lets give Casey the benefit of the doubt for a minute.. if there is NO new information on her part, then what do the parents expect of her?
George Anthony Goes on to say that ANY visits between them ( Cindy, George or Lee) can be set up and remain private. George goes into great lengths to explain to Casey how this can be done. Casey was not believing it and for the way I’ve seen every moment under the media spot light right down to Casey’s emotions when given the news her daughters skull was found, why should Casey believe privacy is not an issue? Obviously it was.. as we wouldn’t have been able to view the jail house recordings. I’m quite certain that George himself was more then appalled to see their visit exploited all over national television at a much later date. In fact, from that point forward, that is all the news was able to capture and I’m sure the Anthony’s decided to STOP all visits due to that very reason. Like Casey said, she has to keep her mouth shut otherwise anything she tells will be brought up at the trial. Right!!
Although Casey was trying to explain ” all” that she herself was going through, in being alone, no one to lean on, no one to get information from other then her lawyer and things of that nature, Cindy was more thinking about herself and all SHE was going through. I’m not saying at all, that the grandmother wasn’t facing a lot herself but who is the parent here? Both parents should be doing everything they can to support their daughter and putting their own feelings aside. Its what good parents do even if their child does wrong. And in this case, both parents claim they support Casey and have been. Actions certainly speak louder then words do.
I don’t for one minute disagree the grandparents love to little Caylee. However, I do witness grandparents who have stepped above their position as Grandparents to be more like Parents. In my opinion, that is wrong for any grandparent to do. My mom never did it to me and I would never do it to my own child who has a child of their own. I am a young grandma and although my son has a lot to learn about parenting, I give advice, I don’t take over. If my son ever told me that him and his girlfriend are too young to care for a baby and they have decided ” adoption”.. I would have supported their decision. It would have shown me they both are not ready. Raising a child is a ” huge” responsibility as we know. Why force that issue on anyone? Many good people who can’t have children of their own would have given Caylee a good life. But it merely wasn’t Cindy’s call to begin with but forced it upon Casey anyway.
With all of that stated, I can totally understand Casey’s outburst with her mother at the time of that jail house interview. I’m trying not to judge here but its very hard. Aside that, who really cares that Casey got upset? Is it really that disturbing that Nancy Grace has to repeatedly air that numerous times over? Is that all she really has to go on far as how Casey is acting?
which reminds me… It was stated that Casey doubled over and hyperventilated once she got the news her daughters remains were found. However, here comes Nancy Grace to determine if Casey’s actions were justified or not….. naturally! wouldn’t be Nancy Grace not to chop that one up. Like Nancy Grace has any experience as to how someone grieves in losing a child.. well, I certainly do. I acted pretty much the same way minus asking for medication. But that’s not to say Casey’s emotions were truly there or not. I suppose I can say I just hate the way Nancy Grace can’t give someone the benefit of the doubt. What I know for sure, is it wouldn’t matter how Casey did act as someone out there would have something negative to say just because they think Casey killed her own baby. I wonder what would have been acceptable to Nancy Grace as to how Casey acted. most likely, nothing.
ok, I’m bored. lol.. but I’m done. until new info comes out, I can’t wait to see how a conviction of murder is going to take place without a confession or someone to say ” I seen her do it”. Circumstantial, hearsay, coincidental… all leaves what’s called ” reasonable doubt”… and reasonable doubt does not = a conviction. just my two cents =)
http://crimecasefiles.com/forum/unusual-cases/1230-famous-no-body-capital-murder-convictions.html
VERY INTERESTING LINK!
SO HERE WE ARE, A BUNCH OF FRIENDS DISCUSSING THIS CASE…ONCE AGAIN!
WE CAN’T WAIT FOR THIS TRIAL, IT WILL BE SO INTERESTING (UNFORTUNATELY IN THIS CASE THE BODY WAS FOUND), NOBODY SAW HER DO IT!… BUT WE BELIEVE THERE WAS PREMIDITATION AND EVERYTHING POINTS “ONLY” TO CASEY ANTHONY!…JUST CASEY ANTHONY!
Lol, It’s not what one knows when it comes to a trial, it’s what one can prove. But I do believe that if the jury members have to go by ” law” and rules of their own, unless Casey admits she killed her child, Casey can’t get a murder sentence. Reasonable doubt is what I think the defendants case will weigh heavy on and how they will actually play on that.
I’ve been part of a civil case to where I witnessed how Jury members are selected. The lawyer who defended my husband in his own case, weeded through particular people. One was dismissed simply because they (lawyer/husband) didn’t like the looks of him. Not suppose to do that, but it does happen. Aside how a jury member is selected or dismissed just based on the ” type” of person both sides can agree on, in the Anthony Case its going to be very tough to select Jurors that have NO knowledge of this case at all. I would almost have to say, that some of the jurors will in fact lie of their knowledge. Just my opinion on that one. Needless to say when it came to my own husbands case, is he decided to settle it off due to the fact of not trusting all jurors to make the right decision. We needed all 12 jurors to agree and although many looked like they were in our favor, we couldn’t take the chance. We could either take a proposed settlement or lose and get nothing. Too much of a gamble. Certainly didn’t help that the county we live in was opposed to suits such as the one that was filed. At any rate, it was the largest amount settled so we couldn’t complain. In sharing that story, I was able to learn a lot how our legal system works to some degree.
Being a huge part of a civil case however, I wonder if a murder trial works similar in so far, can the defendants take a plea bargain during their trial? Civil cases can be negotiated at any time before, during, or after a trial. I’ll have to look into that. If in fact their case can be negotiated at any point, then Casey would have no reason to bargain at this time. Aside that, I’m sure as well, we have not seen all the evidence. The more evidence of course the better far as the prosecution goes as they have only one shot of a conviction. If Casey won her case, she could in fact say she did it at a later date without any consequences.
I think the defendants are going for all or nothing. Anything to avoid further jail time for Casey. So no, I don’t see them taking a lighter sentence such as life without parole. Huge gamble on their part seeing as how the Death penalty will most likely be on that table. However though, if the Jurors go by ” reasonable doubt” like the law states, then I don’t see how the prosecution could win. What I find (strongly agree) that is NOT in Casey’s best interest at this point, is her own lawyers ability to take on such a case and his lack of years in law. This case could be won hands down if she had Denny Crane. Only a show however, ( Boston Legal) but Denny plays a lawyer who is totally awesome… Denny Crane!!
Nancy Grace focused on the missing 5 year old Haleigh from Florida. I pray they find that little girl alive! Any new information INCALIFORNIA on the Casey case? Let me know if you can.. take care. =)
I found this article this morning and I couldn’t agree more!
http://www.officer.com/web/online/Investigation/Mommy-Dearest/18$45493
THANKS IN CALIFORNIA, I TOOK JUST A PIECE OF IT TO EXPLAIN MY OWN THEORY.
Anthony has shown no remorse during the months of searching for her child or upon the news that the young girl was dead. In taped sessions with her parents in the jail her concern has always been well what about me? Sociopathic criminals have no desire to change and no insight into their own behaviors and motivations. In all of the hours of taped conversations in the jail Anthony rarely if ever mentions her missing daughter, never asked if there are there any new leads, never asked about areas searched or how many people were out there searching for little Caylee
IT IS STATED THAT ANTHONY HAS SHOWN NO REMORSE DURING THE MONTHS OF SEARCHING FOR HER CHILD OR UPON THE NEWS THAT THE YOUNG GIRL WAS DEAD. ACCORDING TO THE MEDIA, IT WAS STATED SHE DID SHOW EMOTION WHEN SHE WAS TOLD THE NEWS, AND YET IT IS NOT STATED IN THIS ARTICLE. BUT ASIDE THAT, IF SOMEONE WAS TO LOOK AT THIS STORY BASED ON THE GROUNDS THAT CASEY SOLD THE CHILD, THEN WHY WOULD SHE BE ACTING ANY OTHER WAY, IN MY OPINION, SHE WOULDN’T BE.
IT WAS ALSO BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION BY WATCHING THIS CASE THAT CASEY WAS NOT DEEMED WITH ANY ILLNESSES OF ANY KIND BUT AS TIME GOES ON, SHE IS NOW DEEMED BEING SOCIOPATHIC? WHY? BECAUSE THEY CAN’T SEEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON? WELL, IF THEY LOOKED UPON SOMEONE WHO SOLD A CHILD, EVERYTHING TO ME MATCHES UP PERFECTLY. ALTHOUGH THIS ARTICLE CONTINUES TO TALK ABOUT HOW CASEY ACTED OR DIDN’T ACT DURING HER TAPED CONVERSATIONS, AGAIN, WHY WOULD SHE TALK ABOUT THE MISSING CHILD SHE ONCE SOLD? INSTEAD, CASEY TRIED TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AS TO WHAT WAS BEING ASKED. NOT SAYING SHE TOLD THE TRUTH, OBVIOUSLY I TOO FOUND LIES.
SO NOW IT IS BEING SAID THAT THE SMOKING GUN TO THIS CASE COULD POSSIBLY BE A PAIR OF SHOES. WOW, IS THAT ALL THEY HAVE? WELL, I SUPPOSE THE DEFENSE WOULD HAVE TO COME UP WITH ” SOMETHING” . TO ME, A PAIR OF SHOES IS NO DIFFERENT THEN ANY OF THE OTHER ITEMS FOUND AT THE CRIME SCENE. SO WHAT IF IT MATCHES TO CASEY, IT SHOULD, CAYLEE WAS HER DAUGHTER. IF ONE GOES BY THE FACT THAT CASEY SOLD HER DAUGHTER, ALL THE ITEMS FOUND WOULD FIT AS WELL.
All of this makes the investigation of a parent/child murder case much harder for investigators and prosecutors alike. The Anthony case is a convoluted tale of fabricated lies by Casey Anthony in an attempt to place the blame for her missing child on some one, anyone, but herself. Throughout the investigation her lies led investigators in the wrong direction and wasting valuable time. Since her arrest she has steadfastly refused to tell investigators any details of what she knows about the child’s disappearance.
BASED ON THIS PARAGRAPH, IT ONLY SHOWS ME THEY ARE TOTALLY STUMPED THUS TO STATE ” ALL OF THIS MAKES THE INVESTIGATION OR A PARENT/CHILD MURDER CASE MUCH HARDER FOR INVESTIGATORS AND PROSECUTORS ALIKE”. YEP, MUCH HARDER TO PROSECUTE AND ALTHOUGH THEY WERE ABLE TO TAKE OTHER CASES SUCH AS ANDREA YATES AND OTHERS AND PUT THEM IN A CATEGORY OF THEIR OWN, THEY CAN’T FOR THE LIFE OF THEM FIGURE THE CASEY CASE OUT AT ALL. WHY? BECAUSE TO ME, THEY ARE BARKING UP THE WRONG TREE.. FOR ARGUMENT SAKE, LETS SAY CASEY SOLD HER CHILD….BASED ON WHAT I AM SAYING- DID INVESTIGATORS THINK THAT CASEY IS GOING TO OUT RIGHT ADMIT THAT WHEN BEING QUESTIONED OR IS SHE GOING TO TOTALLY SCREW THAT UP ROYALLY AND SPEW OUT A BUNCH OF LIES? FAR AS THE LAST PART OF THE PARAGRAPH THAT STATES ” SINCE HER ARREST SHE HAS STEADFASTLY REFUSED TO TELL INVESTIGATORS ANY DETAILS OF WHAT SHE KNOWS ABOUT THE CHILD’S DISAPPEARANCE. WELL, NATURALLY!! SHE NOW HAS A LAWYER WHO IS ADVISING HER TO KEEP HER MOUTH SHUT… WHICH IS WHAT SHE SHOULD HAVE DONE RIGHT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
As a general rule, please try to keep your CAPS lock off when you comment. It’s widely accepted as used for emphatic statements only, and entire paragraphs with all caps are just less aesthetically appealing.
But keep up the great comments. You definitely are the longest active discussion thread on the site.
I go over and over this case and I “DON’T BELIEVE FOR ONE MINUTE” that there was “ever a babysitter”…. She couldn’t have sold a child to someone that doesn’t even EXIST!
I’ll just wait for the trial, because I’m absolutely sure that there will be ENOUGH evidence to point ONLY to the real killer!
No doubts in my minds, as sad as it seems… BUT… it happens!…This wouldn’t be the first case when a mother killd her child!
Lee Anthony’s deposition-
My God what the hell was that? What does Zenieda Gonzalas Lawsuit have anything to do with Lee knowing if Casey killed her child or not? Certainly has nothing to do with Deformation of Character on Zenieda’s behalf.
Before I even begin to get into Lee’s deposition, let me just briefly say something regarding the claim Zenieda’s Lawyer is trying to pursue. First off, if its anyone who should be sued, its the police who questioned this woman Zenieda.. how hard would it have been for police to put this woman in front of Casey and say ” Is this the woman”?? Casey gave a name to who she thought took her child. There is over 400 names when googled under the name Zenieda Fernandes Gonzala’s. This case is just stupid! yes I feel badly for the woman who’s name got slandered that caused all kinds of issues for her, but it was the police who brought her in and maybe even accused her.. very poor police work to say the least. Casey should NOT be blamed for filing her own lawsuit back, hello…. its Casey’s lawyer who filed a suit against Zenieda.
The ONLY reason Lee got deposed to begin with, is for it to be all geared up for the Prosecution regarding the Casey case… NOT The Zenieda case. Most of the questioning didn’t even have to do with Zani the nanny. I wonder why Lee’s lawyer didn’t object to a lot of the questioning. At any rate, I found Lee to be credible and yet its so ironic how baldy who stood in for Nancy Grace didn’t think he was.. Oh, Lee was certainly credible enough up until the time he got deposed.. well naturally, no one wants to believe there’s any other story out there other then to say ” casey killed her daughter”. Funny how the way Lee tells the story regarding Casey, is turning out the way I was thinking to begin with? Again, I have always thought Casey tells half truths.. Such as, she will state something but she leaves a lot out. states the truth, but doesn’t say the rest of it. Example, she claims her family was in danger and that Zani took her child.. yep I do believe Zani did take the child.. but what Casey leaves out.. is the fact she took the child in lieu of receiving money. I do believe that all Casey tells her brother Lee is the truth. What would really clear up Lee’s deposition is for him to take a poly graph test to it all.. and I would bet he would in fact pass that.
They did happen to rank on Lee for the fact he laughed a lot during his deposition… but even if Lee cried, or was saddened, it would still be picked apart to state ” he is covering” so don’t look too much into how Lee in fact acted. He could have been guided by his lawyer to tell him how to act as well. One never knows. Based on what Lee had said, it looks as though the defendants are going to say during trial that Zenieda took Caylee to teach Casey some sort of lesson and to state that if Casey in fact went to the authorities at any time with all that was going on, her family including Caylee would be harmed. Lee also said that Casey told him that Zenieda had Casey going all over the place to find Caylee and yet Zenieda was no where to be found. I’m sure that’s most likely true, but also sure that Casey is leaving out the rest of it all.. This is why Lee believes his sister Casey. She has no reason to lie to him, she probably never thought all she did tell Lee in the past would result to what it is today and for him to be deposed. Alls I know is that when someone can’t figure another person out, they go for the obvious. They can’t figure Casey out due to her lies so lets just chalk it up to Murder. Wrong!!
If Casey tells this story on a half truth bases, she isn’t going to be able to justify why in fact she was able to go out and have a good time, if she said because she sold the child, then that would add up. Casey waits 31 days before its finally all out in the open, the only reason it was out in the open in the first place is because Cindy called authorities and I’m quite sure that even Casey didn’t think her mother would call police all frantic like once being told she could not find Caylee. In Casey’s mind, she was probably hoping at the very least, it would only go on a missing child’s report instead of being made nation wide news. Once the call was made, everything happened so fast to where Casey had to think of what she was going to in fact say.. that led her to lying when being questioned. Someone who sold their child is going to lie, they certainly are not going to come out and say ” I sold my child”. I certainly don’t see Casey plotting what she was going to say all the while going out and whooping it up without a care in the world.. so with that stated, for Casey to dump the body on a Gonzalas property was NOT carefully thought out because it didn’t in fact happen that way like the media is thinking.
At any rate, I do believe there is so much more to this story other then Casey just deciding to kill her child. Her lawyer certainly thinks so and I think so as well.
HI INCALIFORNIA,
again, I blame this on really bad police work and once they witnessed Casey lies, Police in fact dropped the ball to find out if the Nanny existed or not. Casey even said that NO one is even bothering to check it out. Casey wanted a sketch artist to draw her up, but Casey got denied. Over 400 of those names come up in florida when googled. I mean, how hard would that have been to in fact check that out for real? and the person they did haul in for questioning, wasn’t put in front of Casey to ask her if this was the person or not.. that certainly is not right. So we don’t know for sure if one exists or not.
It seems that when any child is missing or any husband or wife is found dead, the FIRST person of interest is the parents or spouse. I can think of one little girl that was found after missing for quite sometime. That was the little girl Elizebeth Smart. Remember her? she in fact was abducted and was taken by a cult. Also, what about the JonBenet Ramsey Case? The little girl who was found dead in her parents basement. For years they suspected the parents but in time, the parents were cleared. To this day they still have not found her killer.. so yes, there are some but its sad how the parents are blamed to begin with
I still think she did it!
No matter how I look at it, there’s just too many things that point to her only… Weird that NOBODY ever has seen the so called Zenaida (none of her friends, no one in her family), there are just too many coincidences… She probably NEVER thought that this case was going to be out in the public!… So she has been fabricating lies after lies as the case goes on!
I never thought the Ramsey’s were guilty (not for one minute), I always believed them! and there was enough evidence to prove them innocent. On the Elizabeth Smart case there was a witness >>>(her little sister). The Casey Anthony case is just “too weird”, the girl is known to be a pathological liar, she lies and lies and lies and I don’t believe ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING that comes from her mouth… as time passes by she comes up with new stories… I don’t believe for one minute the theory of Casey selling the child, “it doesn’t fit, it doesn’t make sense, no matter how I look at it”… I would be more inclined to believe that it was an accidental overdose of Chloroform, maybe drowning (which I don’t) but selling Caylee for money $$$$$ NOPE!…I don’t believe that and it doesn’t make any sense!…. I believe she killed her on the 16th, kept her in the trunk for a couple of days… later on tried to bury her but realized it wasn’t easy so backed up the car in the garage loaded up the trunk again with lil’ Caylee’s body and dump the little body… That makes more sense to me!
I don’t think I will post here anymore because this case makes me so sad and I pray that GOD will do justice… As a mother of 2 I can’t even begin to understand how a woman can be so COLD, HEARLESS, EMOTIONLESS… All I know is that if my child was missing, was dead I just couldn’t even smile…Life probably would be pretty much over for me!
Life Pretty much is over for me INCALIFORNIA which is why I try to focus in other cases. I think that’s why George Anthony now focus’s his own time in other missing children cases. It more tends to take the real focus off your own pain.
Back to the case- Lee in my opinion is credible and yet others are thinking he too is covering? sorry, don’t see that. Prior to his deposition, others thought Lee was credible but for Lee to look/be credible, would in fact give Casey the benefit of the doubt. We wouldn’t want that now would we. God forbid.
I think that most people tend to focus what is stated by a persons emotions when clearly… just because Lee was laughing through some of his testimony, does not in fact make him appear guilty. Good thing Lee is not up for murder charges or he too would be prosecuted. At least ONE person made mention that Lee’s actions were based on the severity of this case. No doubt. The family has certainly been through a lot. Casey however is not entitled to feel anymore. Those rights were taken away once she got accused. When a person suddenly loses their loved one, a person is not continuously crying 24/7 around the clock. If one was, they merely would end up dying themselves.
It never ceases to amaze me how in a lot of criminal cases, once police think they have figured a crime out, they tend to rule out other possibilities. Those other possibilities are usually addressed and questioned in trials as to why police didn’t seek further but it also gives the defense the upper hand for the lack of work on the police departments behalf. It ends up leading to reasonable doubt. If police took the time to have Zenieda Drawn out , if police took the time to show Casey the Zenieda they had, if police took the time period, then one could rule out ” reasonable doubt”. Its a shame that most police try and play Judge and Jury when accusing someone to begin with. Police don’t really care though, their job is to make a name for their department. If they cared that much, they could have… at the very least, taken the Zenieda they accused, brought her to Casey so Casey could rule her out, and in fact clear Zenieda’s name once and for all. But they didn’t, because they did not care!!
For all the bad publicity on this Case to begin with, I wonder just how many people will think its unfair if in fact Casey is cleared on Murder charges. Nancy Grace for one will certainly think its unfair no doubt, she in fact would ” never” admit to any wrong doing of her own. So with that even stated and knowing that NG would not go against herself, even if Casey walks in the very end.. her life has already been exploited. If Casey does get charged with Murder, it then become’s Casey’s cross to carry and not anyone elses.
“Just out of curiosity, shouldn’t Lee, Cindy, George, Casey and Jose be looking for the real killers? I didn’t get one whiff of a hint from Lee’s deposition that he is focused on finding Caylee’s murderer. Did you?
I mean, supposing someone took your child/grandchild/niece and killed her, tripled-bagged her and left her a block from your house, and tried to frame you for it, wouldn’t you be pissed?
I mean, what kind of search are the Anthony’s conducting to find this elusive nanny? Do they really think Jesse or Amy was involved? Wouldn’t you be camping out on the doorstep of the person you thought might have killed your grandchild? Wouldn’t you be attempting to find answers, that could bring justice for Caylee AND free Casey?
Oh yeah, the Anthony’s search for the real killers is reminiscent of Casey’s initial “investigation” of Caylee’s kidnapping. Non-existent!!!!
Too bad OJ is in prison…he could help them find ‘the real killer”!
Kevin you really do make an excellent point. I think Lee’s entire deposition was way off base for what he was suppose to be questioned for to begin with.
The lawyer who did that deposition almost seemed like he was questioning Lee regarding the murder case when he ONLY should have been trying to get Zenieda ( the one they had) cleared.
Maybe the mind frame of the Anthony’s are just technically gone for everything they are going through. Could be, deep inside each one of them, they are thinking differently about Casey. But your right Kevin, If I were in these peoples shoes ( god forbid) and my child was sitting in Jail, I’d be breaking down doors to find out who the hell did this no matter what it took.
When being questioned however in a deposition, you are only suppose to answer the questions. You are not suppose to ” add” anything or start rambling off in another direction. I sat in a civil deposition once before and saw how it works. I assume a deposition is the same criminal/civil. Lee’s deposition was a civil suit. It was against Zani. Far as I’m concerned, I don’t see why or how Lee would offer up the advice as to what their family is now doing to find the real killer unless that question was in fact asked.
Sorry, one more thing. When Lee was asked ” Do you believe Casey in fact killed her own child”. Lee’s lawyer objected to Lee answering it. For a reason and it wasn’t objected due to Lee’s ability to answering it correctly. It was objected due to the questioning not going with the claim. This claim was to clear the Zenida they had in front of them. Proper questions would be things such as.
1) Have you ever met Zenieda Fernandes Gonzala’s?
2) Is this person/picture the Zenieda that was careing for Caylee?
3) how long did Zenieda baby sit Caylee..
see, things of that Nature and that was ALL. This was not the prosecution questioning Lee for Casey’s murder trial like it all appeared to seem. Based on all I saw.. I can only make guesses but these are the things I found odd.
1) Was this lawyer of Zenieda’s trying to make a name for himself?
2) In my opinion, Lee was not guided properly for this deposition for the fact when there is a yes or no question, that was all that was needed. Instead, Lee added way more then he had to.
3) Lee’s Lawyer should have objected to certain questions asked and didn’t. Why was that? This lawyer was suppose to be in Lee’s best interest and I didn’t see that at all.
After reading all of the posts from Donna I can’t help but wonder if she is somehow related to the Anthony’s or maybe “Cindy” herself. Hum???????
No Kevin,
I had to kinda laugh with that one.. related? by far. I live in Massachusetts, my last name is Maclean. Matter of fact, I once appeared on the television show Ghost Hunters on the Sci-fi Channel. ( nightmare noises season 3.5) second half of the show. Not that it makes a difference far as being related, just a little info about myself.
Trying to solve cases has always interested me. Never did I think my own family would be in the middle of our own nightmare far as the death of my own son goes. I patiently wait hoping his case will be solved soon but as I can see as to how it goes at times, I can see it can take years or never be solved at all. I try and stay busy with other things best I can. But seriously, I am no relation at all to the Anthony Family.
Now that I think about it, Maybe its totally wrong of me to keep posting my thoughts on this case seeing as how it wasn’t me to even make this site. I hope I’m not offending anyone. I’m truly so sorry if I am.
Sounds like you have certainly had your share of hardship Donna. Loosing your son, a haunted house. You should tell your story. I dont think you are offending any one, I think people are hearing and seeing what is in the media and dont really look at the big piture or the leagalities of the case. They just see her guilt from what they have seen and heard and dont think of the legal system and how it works. It really is hard for some people to understand,they see that everything they are showing us points to a mother killing her child and want justice served now. But it dosnt work that way as you know. I hope they find out what happened to your son. Take care and be strong…sounds like this is a good outlet for you.
Hi Sal,
My life has been far from simple and most the time I don’t even know what gives me that strength to keep going until I realize I have other kids who will always need me and a son who now doesn’t have a voice who is counting on me to be heard. If I could only get a fraction of the attention Casey’s case is getting, I’d be rather satisfied ( minus the media-lol). The investigators on my son’s case seems to be tight mouthed at this point. I do thank god there is no statute of limitations when it does come to murder. Far as our house goes, aside what we as a family have already experienced and continue at times, The entire investigation done by the TAPS team was pretty amazing. I never heard of the show prior as that is a long story in itself but I’d give anything to live elsewhere as there are just too many bad memories to speak of. At any rate Sal, I sincerely thank you for your understanding to all I have endured over the years.
back to the case- I am glad to see that Casey has other lawyers who joined in to help. NG seems to be floored that the death penalty is taken off the table which is surprising to me considering her heart seemed to go out to George at the time of his attempted suicide. How quick she has a change of heart. In seeing some of the video on Casey ( utube) with her daughter Caylee, again… I don’t see a cold blooded killer and although NG try’s to point out other cases, to me.. they certainly are not the same. NG is making enough money from the very same story and yet has the nerve to put down others. She’s a case all in itself. Other then that, there really isn’t anything new on the case but I will continue to post my thoughts due to Sal understanding where I am coming from. thanks again Sal, means a lot!
Just wanted to say that I’ve moved my opinions over to crime stoppers due to the fact there are so many who join in rather then me posting my thoughts on my own. Maybe in time others will see this very site and start it up again but it almost feels like my very own Journal. Thanks all the same for having me. Take care.
Thanks for spending so much time sharing your thoughts with us, Donna.