Posted on 05 June 2008 by Michael Callaway
You hear a lot of talk about Obama and Clinton as a dream ticket, that Clinton will help Obama win the needed 270 electoral votes needed to be the next President of the United States. Many people will point out that Clinton can help carry women, Latinos and that all important group, hard working white people. Also, she did have over 18 million people vote for her (I was one of them).
It has also been suggested that Obama may not be able to win because there are too many people (of course all in South because that is the only place that is racist) that will not vote for a black man. Personally, if the only reason you are not voting for Obama is because he is black, I would prefer you stay home, we do not need your voice in the mix. I would also say that if your only reason for voting FOR Obama is because he is black you should do the same.
Now I am not sure how many people there are that will base their decision on race. I am hopeful that it is a small enough minority that Barak Obama does not need help with getting the angry white man to vote for him. In my opinion you should not be against Obama because he is black or Clinton because she is a woman, you should be against them because big government programs do not work and that is what both of them want.
If Obama was a small government, low taxes, and strong military candidate then I think he would carry the South and steam roll McCain. As it is, I do not think he will, no matter who his running mate is because his views are very different then what the majority of us in the South believe (last time Texas voted Democrat was 1976 and just barely).
Obama should not take Clinton as his VP choice, his message has been about a new start, change to Washington politics, and bringing people together. Clinton will not be able to do any of those three and will be more help to the Democrat cause as a Senator just like Teddy Kennedy has been.
For me as a Republican it is a dream ticket, it would rattle the sabers of the conservative right and force them to love John McCain. Bubba Clinton will get in the way and it will cause all kinds of off message moments that the campaign would rather not have to deal with. You also know that the Clinton’s are going to want to turn it into a Co-Presidency, three for the price of one. If I were Obama, I would say, “No Deal!”
In 1980 Ronald Reagan faced the same situation; many people wanted him to name Gerry Ford as his VP. Many in the Republican Party were still bitter about Reagan’s challenge to Ford in 1976 and thought it would heal the party and make them more effective against Jimmy Carter. Reagan thought about it for awhile but in the end did not do it for the same reasons Obama should not. Reagan was the nominee, he earned it, he was the one to become President. If Obama is smart he should do as Reagan did, but then again, so should we all.
Popularity: 9% [?]
June 6th, 2008 at 12:46 am
What kind of idiot claims he is a Republican and votes for the biggest socialist around who endorses socialized medicine?!? Hitlery Clinton would RUIN America’s healthcare system and that is her MAIN pet project! The cost of healthcare is so high in this country because of Democrats who think Americans need more regulation in healthcare (which raises the cost of every aspect of healthcare). Also anyone who believes this nonsense (of course all in South because that is the only place that is racist) didn’t watch the Virginia primaries where many interviewees mentioned Obamas race as the reason they would not vote for him. If you truly favor small government you should vote for Bob Barr who is the ONLY one out there, since the media ridiculed Ron Paul into oblivion, who favors a truly Constitutional government (which America hasn’t had in 75 years). Even McCain is better than ANY Democrat because he wants to stop entitlement programs even if he wants to give every illegal immigrant amnesty and keep us in Iraq a hundred years. At least (unlike a Democrat) he won’t raise our taxes to 60% for a bunch of socialist programs that won’t work but WILL rob the people in America who have worked hard to get ahead.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:25 am
Let’s refrain from using insults, Richard. You can make your point without lowering yourself.
June 6th, 2008 at 9:47 am
I’m responding to Richard. Just because you don’t agree with what a person has written doesn’t mean you should him or her an idiot. Michael may be part of Rush Limbaugh’s Operation Chaos (Are you, Darling?) Secondly, remember where you got the notion that people in Virginia are rubes. The media loves nothing more than to paint people in the South as “Yuck, yuck, lemme spit my chaw out here on the sidewalk cause I’m just a hillbilly who don’t know nuttin’” There are probably as many racists in Connecticut but you’re not going to see that on the news.
June 6th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
SO true Lisa. The media LIES pure and simple. I don’t believe ANY of the mainstream media. As far as Callaway’s ideas about Strategic voting; that’s why America is in such trouble. People think they are amateur voting analyists and proceed with their own personal plans to vote AGAINST their own pet evils while voting FOR a lesser evil (which is STILL EVIL) which means they don’t vote for what they want and we all live under evil rule. Not what the founding fathers had in mind I’d bet. Articles I’ve read said Obama would be easier to beat than Hillary. Voting in the primary for Hitlery would give the impression she has better support than she has thus actually improving her results since some people vote in the general election based off of primary results.
June 6th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Well, as the idiot who wrote the post I would like to respond. First, it is not unusual that my views will tend to anger conservatives more then they anger liberals. Sadly, I am used to making both sides upset, liberals will think that I am wrong, conservatives will feel like I am to cozy with the left.
If you want a detailed reason as to why I voted for Hillary, read my blog titled, “Why I Voted for Hillary”. It goes into the details as to why I did it and the emotional pain it caused me. It was not because I thought Hillary was more beatable in the fall or because I wanted to be part of the chaos. If the Democrats win in the fall, I wanted to pick the one I thought would do the better of the two.
Being a good Republican does not mean hating the Democrats or thinking that they are evil. Being a good Republican means supporting smaller government, free trade, and a strong defense. I wish people could disagree without being rude, but for most people that is just not possible.
June 8th, 2008 at 6:44 am
Tell me the word, Hitlery was a typo. To compare Hillery to Hitler is just wrong. First, Hitler was evil, Hillery at worst would be wrong about taxes and the roll of government. Second, Hitler was a Fascist, which is the total extreme opposite of Communism or Socialism so that point would not even make sense, you would need to be comparing her to Karl Marx or Lenin if you were looking to be extreme. Third, if it was deliberate, then you are no better then the radicals on the left like moveon.org that compare the Republican Party to the Nazi Party.
June 9th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
If you’ll check the site listed you’ll see how simply confused about governments role the Clintons are.
Saturday, June 7, 2008 Ben Bernanke, Condoleezza Rice, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton amongst a host of other global power brokers have all convened in Chantilly Virginia to secretly discuss the future of the world - yet not one mainstream U.S. corporate media outlet has uttered a single word about the 2008 Bilderberg conference.
Bilderbergers seem to enjoy visiting the U.S. because they can be assured that in the “land of the free,” the American “free press” are certain to follow orders and not print even a puff piece about a confab of over 125 of the globe’s most influential movers and shakers.
She was the door greeter at a recent Bilderberger meeting and is part of the One-World Government group which is steadily stealing our rights and American heritage of freedom in this country. In case you haven’t had your reality check lately the Constitution has been eviscerated to the point of non-existence especially since our “small government” Republican President has eliminated most of what was left of our rights. Essentially, the government or law enforcement can NOW under the Patriot act simply dub an individual a “person of interest” and the rights afforded by the Constitution are virtually null and void. Changes have been made to reduce the red tape necessary for law enforcement to wire tap or search a suspect and “persons of interest” may be detained indefinitely without being charged and without the benefit of legal counsel. While you are dancing with the devil deciding for us which “lesser evil” will harm us the least the “small government” Republicans you trust are finding new ways to indict us all. Hopefully some day when we are all in the new jails being built to house us “persons of interest” you government apologists will realize this truism.
Its not Left Vs Right.
Its the State Vs you!
Left-wing politicians take away your liberty in the name of children and of fighting poverty, while right-wing politicians do it in the name of family values and fighting drugs. Either way, government gets bigger and you become less free.
– Harry Browne
June 9th, 2008 at 8:38 pm
Good Lord people are crazy.
June 10th, 2008 at 12:58 am
So, according to your comments, Bernanke, Rice, Obama, Clinton and others met secretly in Chantilly, Virginia. I’d like to share three points. First, I’d like to ask that if it was such a secret meeting than, why do we know about it? The Bilderberg conference as you correctly stated is an annual meeting. However, it’s an annual meeting that has been going on since 1954. It has only taken place stateside about 8 out of those 54 years. Conspiracy? Many Americans may be unaware that everyday there are global organizations holding conferences, meetings and sessions where they sit down candidly and discuss problems, address solutions and develop processes that may or may never actually be implemented. They have a very secretive group name and even their own symbol. It was developed by Motorola (who probably makes your all or part of your cell phone) and famously adopted by GE. (who brings good things to life- including NBC and light bulbs) It’s called Six Sigma. Now, there’s a conspiracy for you.
Second, the only name you have referenced that actually attended the 2008 conference was Condelezza Rice. In no particular order here are the US invitees to the meeting. Henry Kissinger, Richard Perle, George Shultz, Condoleezza Rice, Henry Paulson, Robert Zoellick, Paul Wolfowitz, Richard Holbrooke, Lawrence Summers, Roger Altman, Tom Daschle, Mark Sanford, Kathleen Sebelius, Vin Weber, Harold Ford Jr., Keith Alexander, Dennis Ross, Vernon Jordan. This list includes current and former secretaries of Defense, State, national security advisors, senators, governors, republicans, democrats…but sadly no conspiracies. If you are curious as to what actually takes place at these meetings, why not get the opinion of someone who has actually been there?
http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/article.php?enewsid=74966
My last and final thought is this. You hint that you are worried that you will end up in jail due to your opinions. I just want to point out that the stated punishment for willful plagiarism is $100,000.00 and five years in jail. If you are going to post incorrect information… at the very least, site your source.
http://www.infowars.com/?p=2576
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Saturday, June 7, 2008
Ben Bernanke, Condoleezza Rice, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton amongst a host of other global power brokers have all convened in Chantilly Virginia to secretly discuss the future of the world - yet not one mainstream U.S. corporate media outlet has uttered a single word about the 2008 Bilderberg conference.
June 11th, 2008 at 11:39 am
Yeah some people are crazy and SOME people are just out of touch with things they don’t want to face or otherwise delusional: http://www.lewrockwell.com/hornberger/hornberger140.html
Here’s another “Hero list” for you: http://www.illuminati-news.com/skull-&-bones-memberlist.htm
And another: http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/uspresidentasmasonspt4.htm
First, I’d like to ask that if it was such a secret meeting than, why do we know about it?
You answer your own question with the link you provided. I have no idea how Jones finds the meetings.
Do I have to cite sources for every fact I use?
No. You do not have to cite sources for facts that are not the result of unique individual research. Facts that are readily available from numerous sources and generally known to the public are considered “common knowledge,” and are not protected by copyright laws. You can use these facts liberally in your paper without citing authors. If you are unsure whether or not a fact is common knowledge, you should probably cite your source just to be safe. Please visit Purdue’s guide, “Deciding if Something is Common Knowledge.”
SOURCE: http://www.plagiarism.org/learning_center/plagiarism_faq.html
“She was the door greeter at a RECENT Bilderberger meeting and is part of the One-World Government group which is steadily stealing our rights and American heritage of freedom in this country.”
Notice here concerning the meeting where I said she was a door greeter was a RECENT meeting not the MOST recent one in 2008 aside from my insertion of Jones’ quote.
Although the source of THAT meeting was possibly Alex Jones the reference was from a year ago about a past meeting.
As far as the June 7, 2008 group “sub-meetings” or those of the illuminati I doubt your author was privy to those being a PR guest as he apparently was.